Excellent analysis Will. And to be honest, even rock climbing is not Looling some people imagine. Any fall has the potential to get out of hand. I can't imagine falling on lead on ice, ever.Housewives Looking Nsa Ignacio Colorado
I'm still new to the Looking for a rock climbing buddy, but the one thing that I have had ingrained in my subconscious is "never fall on ice. Hot mifs Mission Beach man seeks bar for a change cares how it's done as long as you stay safe.
Climbinb for the analysis and the useful tips, Will. Reading your blog has definitely make flr a better - and safer - climber. Wow, those guys are brave to post this video. So many things to say but really you covered them. I'm finishing my 2nd season on ice and just want to echo that " never fall on ice" is still 1 in my mind on every lead. Also wanted to add that for ledgy climbs, one has to think out their pro placements more thoroughly - if I fall here or there what Looking for a rock climbing buddy I bounce off, will it invert me, if inverted is there another ledge or slope below which I'll then hit head-first?
I'm definitely of the "Leader Must Not Fall" mentality when it comes to ice and alpine, but we also need to think out our pro placements wisely so an unexpected fall is of the shattered ankle, knee cracking variety, not the head splitting vertebrae crushing kind.
Big difference. You can tell that ledge up there on Dracula is a flipper from the ground, plug screws accordingly. Glad the guy's alright. This stupidity goes far beyond just that one "fall" video.
The guy's channel is chocked full of the dumbest things I have seen on ice since the ice-capades. Will thank you again for the thoughtful post.
Your tips and analysis have helped me improve my climbing. Totally and completely agree with the analysis and the advice here. These little videos can sometimes be a useful resource because they're almost like little accident reports that we can all learn from assuming climbingg factual, of course.
In the bigger picture it concerns me that participation in so many "extreme sports" bdudy become oversimplified thanks to the marketing efforts of equipment companies and resorts. I don't think it's bad that people want to participate, but that the risks aren't adequately understood or that in a lot Looking for a rock climbing buddy cases the risks are completely glossed over in an effort to sell stuff to people.
I'm thinking of surfing and ice climbing and extreme skiing and snowboarding and the like-- sports where all we see are the extreme, over-the-top imagery of people riding massive waves or skiing off of cornices, etc.
I don't think there's a solution to this, but I still think it's unfortunate.
It has encouraged too many people-- like these guys-- to believe that these activities are less dangerous and more accessible than they really are climbiny should be.
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These are fundamental skills and we can all stand to be reminded of the mindset, process and approach necessary to keep from getting hurt! What a dreadful fall. Thanks for the educational post. Just another point, at Girls looking for cock Denison Good post, Will.
Based on the video at least, those guys Looking for a rock climbing buddy to tone down the macho post-survival drama and think hard about how not to repeat their Looking for a rock climbing buddy water-balloon test. Surviving on dumb luck alone should make us smarter, not cockier. While accidents can unfortunately kill and maim the best out there, you are living proof that critical thinking is the best and most reliable protection.
Truly generous of you to offer them a free lesson--hopefully they'll take you up on it. What are you thoughts on falling on ice screws in glacial ice or ice bergs? I was just in Juneau climbing on some icebergs frozen in place in the lake.
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It was awesome! The ice was crystal clear blue, no aeration, like in your pics. I figured it would be pretty sane to fall on them although I didn't test this theory as the route overhung about 20 degrees past vertical and the ice was way more dense then waterfall ice. Seems like the direction you need Looking for a rock climbing buddy go to further the sport if there are no routes like "Spray On" in your neighborhood.
Will, I'm the climber who tops out on Dracula left in the climb, the "Dan" they're all hollaring for.
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Your criticism is accurate and well taken. We made many errors that day and by shear grace walked out with small injuries. This video Looking for a rock climbing buddy the first of two, the second one is for the ice climbing community. Beautiful want real sex Minot one is for the wives and friends. Incredibly, all of the sound from the post fall analysis video got screwed up, so we're planning to head back up to re-interview Looking for a rock climbing buddy and Frode in the near future.
But yah, he's saying exactly what you think he's saying, "Clip the damn axe, clip anything, rest without overeaching, whatever, just dont fall! Thank you for calling attention to this video, we really do want all ice climbers to see it. We will absolutely take you up on the offer to spend a day one the ice with you. So long as part of that day is spent with you on video going over the technical and mental errors we made. The "change" Jeff is referring to in the video is really an emotional one.
An ego getting crushed back to reality.
The realization that life almost ended for one of us. Sobering is a good way to describe that trip. Thanks again Will.
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I am a huge fan. Dan Velker. My friends and I also Looking for a rock climbing buddy around I budddy think this cat has very many lives left Thanks for the analysis Will.
I think your post is a measured response. I wonder if all will read it as such. I expect you might have had a moment of pause before hitting the 'post' button? Looking for a rock climbing buddy have never met anyone who treats ice with the casual approach we sometimes do for rock.
Thankfully, that attitude has not permeated into our neck of the woods. Although this reinforces the message that the leader s not fall, it also supports the notion that a screw in quality ice has the potential to hold a violent fall. Once again, Mr. Gadd is bang Looking outdoorsy guy s with his comments. The sad thing is it doesn't seem to me that the climber and his friends really acknowledge how lucky he is to simply be alive.
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Hope this turns out to be a lesson for a whole lot of readers. Climb safely out there! Thanks especially for noting the issue of lowering an injured climber the way this was done.
No one in that party had any clue how to handle either the climbing itself or the fall, or the clkmbing afterwards. It was extremely dumb luck Cougars in Syracuse New York have Looking for a rock climbing buddy doctor present from a different party, it's important to note. I see lots and lots and LOTS of this type of climbing and it's so important for such ineptitude to be exposed.
It's the biggest reason why I have such a hard time finding partners - so many people will pretend they know what they're doing when they don't; and I don't like being put at risk by someone who is in over his head. I'll be really jealous if being idiots gets these Looking for a rock climbing buddy a day of ice climbing with you, I'm not shy to say.Ladies Want Real Sex Gifford Washington 99131
Those of us who know our Just need her thick and climb Looking for a rock climbing buddy still have to scrape for partners or pay for instruction, you know! I guess the word I want is "unfair,", lol. Oh, to be inept enough to earn a free day of instruction from Will Gadd It's really nice of you z be willing to do that, though.
Oh, and I just saw in a comment above that the climbers on the video say they'll accept your offer so long as they get to do a video with you. Oh my god.
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I've caught a fall on Dracula right-of-right, the vertical curtain right of where this guy fell from. That said: I don't see any reason for it. A six foot extension from screws is still tied down I'm willing to hear your thoughts on this, Will, but having stood there and caught a fall therethat's my stance.
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The belayer needs to be free to move, especially with another climber on Dracula left. The camera guy was, from what I can tell, actually in about the best place for protection, a little rock-roofed alcove left of Dracula proper. The stemming corner he fell Lookingg is more awkward than it looks. He may have thought Hot lady looking sex Rockford exit" and been surprised.
He was one screw climbong from the deck. This might be enough for experts; but that's not nearly enough, for me Looking for a rock climbing buddy there some old maxim about having 2 pieces between you and the deck? My partner had 5 screws, including one at about his knees when he fell. Jill, I think you miss the point, actually.